Pollen(8) VA+FM 2.0 Field Edition available now

Can’t wait to see your results and release on Patch as it will make Daisy to another level of professionalism in the eurorack composing world.

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I received my Patch today and cannot wait until I can use your awesome synth! :smiley:

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Really want to have your Patch version. Willing to pay as you worth it. Plus your Pollen will be one of the top Eurorack Synth to use in the synth music world! For sure!

No worries - it’s on the list and will be available as soon as possible! The patch and pod releases are definitely on the way!

Do you have plans open-sourcing the firmware?

I can imagine the amount of work you’ve put into the project, so I can totally understand if you won’t. But I think this is a great real-world example of a fully featured daisy project. It would be beneficial for all the folks who just getting started with daisy/C++ programming to explore how things are done.

Having a strict open-source license will protect it from commercial use, in case you worry about it.

I’ve considered it. To be fair, this… admittedly isn’t the sort of project you’d want to start with. I had to modify the daisy library to reduce some code space, I also had to employ other tricks to squish everything in to exactly 128K! There are 68 source files with the project alone.

As for how “things are done” - well that’s always debatable :grinning:

My experience with some open source stuff in the past wasn’t positive, people tend to do what they want and next thing you know there’s a new version out by someone else and yet I’m the one getting complaints when they’ve broken that version.

Who knows, maybe things are better now.

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To be fair, this… admittedly isn’t the sort of project you’d want to start with

Yeah, definitely. I just find the daisy examples really basic, which definitely great for beginners, but when it comes to building something more advanced, there are not many resources available.

Having a reference to some real-world project would be definitely helpful at least to me since all the embedded/DSP world is new to me.

I think the beauty of the open-source is that everyone can read & propose fixes/improvements. And I don’t think it makes any sense for an author to be responsible for any modifications of the original code.

I find libDaisy is a great example of a healthy open source community. For the last few months, there were quite a few contributions, which I think keep the project alive.

Yeah true. Like I said I’m not adverse to it, I will be opening some stuff up for sure - for example I was able to get the libdaisy oscillators to run about 2-3x faster and also add pwm, plus I reworked the oled font stuff to support variable width and make the 8x8 character set 8 bit only to save codespace etc. All stuff I’m sure someone could find useful, will have to see how I’d do that, as I don’t want to just fork the existing library as its continuously being updated etc.

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How easy or difficult would it be to port Pollen to the Noise Engineering Versio platform?
The Versio module offers more controls and seems to be an interesting alternative to Daisy Patch.

Really cannot wait any longer to see Pollen on Patch

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I hear you. I’m almost ready to buy the Knobula Poly Cinematic because I reeeeally want a polyphonic module in my system. I think it’s also Daisy based, but I actually find the Pollen much more interesting. What a dilemma. :slight_smile:

I hear you all. So much stuff going on not even project wise. That said, it is running on my patch. The biggest challenge is the UI - the knobs are also tied to the CV inputs - navigating through all of the menus with the encoder wheel alone would not be very friendly.

The second challenge is 128K - the field version used every single byte, including some string compression(tokenization) etc. For the patch, I may have to make the Midi CC assignment fixed, or remove it entirely replacing with CV assignability.

  • e.g. currently if you hold the encoder wheel down, it toggles between UI control and CV control, so you can assign the CV inputs to any of the parameters. That’s where all of the work is currently.

Like I said, to be honest, doing that isn’t the real challenge - it’s getting it all to fit in 128K. (The little title screen is only 327 bytes though). So I have to get creative some times, and that adds time, nevermind all of the other ‘life stuff’ going on :frowning:

Soon! Honest!

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I‘m super happy about your update! Thank you for the work you‘re doing.

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Support you on working that hard. You deserve a payback!

Fwiw, the author has a donation link on his website. I gave a little a while back because I’ve enjoyed their NTS-1 plugins as well as the old pollen version – it was pretty easy (paypal IIRC).

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I will definitely donate once Pollen runs on my Patch.

I’ve come across several of your projects online by accident and I’m amazed. Keep it up.

I want to build my own no-frills VA synth module for live playing. The Daisy seed seems perfect for this. I don’t want it to sound algorithmically perfect, but with grit and imperfections. Looking at Pollen 2.0’s features, it seems you considered some analog modelling.

I understand you’re not open-sourcing the entire thing. But I’m very interested in how you designed some modules. Your sync’able oscillators, mixer overdrive, filter overdrive
Oscillator sync (!), mixer & filter overdrive, Hera chorus, are really interesting compared to the rather perfectly implemented DaisySP modules. Don’t feel obliged to release them seperately though, it’s your work.

Did you incorporate any virtual modelling principles to make the synth less perfect and gritty? And what kind of filter do you use?

Bravo on the UI here. Really enjoyable experience.

Hello! Furnace Tracker contributor here. A truly amazing project! It will be such a useful resource if this project goes open-source! The Daisy community currently lacks this kind of real-world project and such open source effort will be hugely appreciated!

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It was an interesting project. But TBH I’m getting bored of messages asking for it to be fixed on the Pod, or made open-source, because it’s not going to happen. The most promising alternative is this, and I suggest that’s what people focus on.

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